Basic DB Design question

I have decided to build a Football Pool app as a way of teaching myself asp.net with non code-generating tools. I am stuck on some basic DB design thoughts and would appreciate some feedback.

Right now I have pages that let me input some of the initial data like Users, Teams and Game Schedules. I need to be able to record whether a user has paid their weekly entrance fee but I don't know which table to store this info even what datatype would be the best solution.

Here is the table design I have so farhttp://www.insecurepc.com/FootballPoolDBDesign.jpg Before you ask, the users tables would be the asp.net 2.0 mambership ones which are too many to list...

Thoughts please. TIA

I would suggest the following as it pertains to the business logic of your task.

Create a table for the "week" with weekId and date (no time reqd). This is a central table that links most of the others together

Create a table formoney input or "Subscription" with a link to your dateId and user

You have a table formoney output - winnings which links to dateId.

You might also need to store more user details - maybe more on address, more phone numbers etc.

|||You are in the right direction about your table design while the previous advice not about table design, you can use Microsoft provided membership for your users and just add DRI(declarative referential integrity) to team, schedules and subscription fee tables, money you need to use Decimal or Numeric because you can set precision and scale. Hope this helps.

Basic DB Design question

I have decided to build a Football Pool app as a way of teaching myself
asp.net with non code-generating tools. I am stuck on some basic DB
design though and would appreciate some feedback.
Right now I have pages that let me input some of the initial data like
Users, Teams and Game Schedules. I need to be able to record whether a
user has paid their weekly entrance fee but I don't know which table to
store this info even what datatype would be the best solution.
Here is the table design I have so far
http://www.insecurepc.com/FootballPoolDBDesign.jpg Before you ask, the
users tables would be the asp.net 2.0 membership ones which are too
many to list...
Thoughts please. TIAWell, seems like you could do it several differant ways. One would be to
have a user table with an extra field, "Paid". Then when on Monday night
around 1 am schedule a job to clear "Paid" field in the user table. Or if
you want to keep track of each week and partiapation, and add a field for
each week. But then again, you can have a Paid table with user name and
week(as the key). You see that is the Great thing about about relational
database's, you can be as creative as you want. Just make sure you have keys
and relations.
"fwells11@.hotmail.com" wrote:
> I have decided to build a Football Pool app as a way of teaching myself
> asp.net with non code-generating tools. I am stuck on some basic DB
> design though and would appreciate some feedback.
> Right now I have pages that let me input some of the initial data like
> Users, Teams and Game Schedules. I need to be able to record whether a
> user has paid their weekly entrance fee but I don't know which table to
> store this info even what datatype would be the best solution.
> Here is the table design I have so far
> http://www.insecurepc.com/FootballPoolDBDesign.jpg Before you ask, the
> users tables would be the asp.net 2.0 membership ones which are too
> many to list...
> Thoughts please. TIA
>sql

Basic DB Design question

I have decided to build a Football Pool app as a way of teaching myself
asp.net with non code-generating tools. I am stuck on some basic DB
design though and would appreciate some feedback.
Right now I have pages that let me input some of the initial data like
Users, Teams and Game Schedules. I need to be able to record whether a
user has paid their weekly entrance fee but I don't know which table to
store this info even what datatype would be the best solution.
Here is the table design I have so far
http://www.insecurepc.com/FootballPoolDBDesign.jpg Before you ask, the
users tables would be the asp.net 2.0 membership ones which are too
many to list...
Thoughts please. TIAWell, seems like you could do it several differant ways. One would be to
have a user table with an extra field, "Paid". Then when on Monday night
around 1 am schedule a job to clear "Paid" field in the user table. Or if
you want to keep track of each week and partiapation, and add a field for
each week. But then again, you can have a Paid table with user name and
week(as the key). You see that is the Great thing about about relational
database's, you can be as creative as you want. Just make sure you have key
s
and relations.
"fwells11@.hotmail.com" wrote:

> I have decided to build a Football Pool app as a way of teaching myself
> asp.net with non code-generating tools. I am stuck on some basic DB
> design though and would appreciate some feedback.
> Right now I have pages that let me input some of the initial data like
> Users, Teams and Game Schedules. I need to be able to record whether a
> user has paid their weekly entrance fee but I don't know which table to
> store this info even what datatype would be the best solution.
> Here is the table design I have so far
> http://www.insecurepc.com/FootballPoolDBDesign.jpg Before you ask, the
> users tables would be the asp.net 2.0 membership ones which are too
> many to list...
> Thoughts please. TIA
>

Basic DB Design question

I have decided to build a Football Pool app as a way of teaching myself
asp.net with non code-generating tools. I am stuck on some basic DB
design though and would appreciate some feedback.
Right now I have pages that let me input some of the initial data like
Users, Teams and Game Schedules. I need to be able to record whether a
user has paid their weekly entrance fee but I don't know which table to
store this info even what datatype would be the best solution.
Here is the table design I have so far
http://www.insecurepc.com/FootballPoolDBDesign.jpg Before you ask, the
users tables would be the asp.net 2.0 membership ones which are too
many to list...
Thoughts please. TIA
Well, seems like you could do it several differant ways. One would be to
have a user table with an extra field, "Paid". Then when on Monday night
around 1 am schedule a job to clear "Paid" field in the user table. Or if
you want to keep track of each week and partiapation, and add a field for
each week. But then again, you can have a Paid table with user name and
week(as the key). You see that is the Great thing about about relational
database's, you can be as creative as you want. Just make sure you have keys
and relations.
"fwells11@.hotmail.com" wrote:

> I have decided to build a Football Pool app as a way of teaching myself
> asp.net with non code-generating tools. I am stuck on some basic DB
> design though and would appreciate some feedback.
> Right now I have pages that let me input some of the initial data like
> Users, Teams and Game Schedules. I need to be able to record whether a
> user has paid their weekly entrance fee but I don't know which table to
> store this info even what datatype would be the best solution.
> Here is the table design I have so far
> http://www.insecurepc.com/FootballPoolDBDesign.jpg Before you ask, the
> users tables would be the asp.net 2.0 membership ones which are too
> many to list...
> Thoughts please. TIA
>

Bad un-install of SQL Server 2005 Tools Express Edition CTP

I have used the tool at this URL

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/support/uninstall/#Tool

and *cannot* get SQL Server 2005 Tools Express Edition CTP to uninstall. I get the following dialog box:

"The setup has encountered an unexpected error in datastore. The action is Write_CommitFlag. The error is:Unable to write property into cache flagCommit Unable to write property into cache: "flagCommit" XmlRW Error: Failure loading xmlrw.dll CheckAllProcedures() returned 2."

Any ideas as to how I can work around this ?

Just dug this out of forums, and I believe it fixed my issues. Reposting for everyone's benefit.

http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=130776&SiteID=1

|||

1.Run 'SQL Server 2005 Tools Express Edition' setup with -x from command prompt this will extract all setup files into a folder.

2. search a help file in that folder and go to ‘command line ‘ help topic, you can run that command(s) from command prompt.

sql

Backup/Restore Status

Very often I have to do large backup and restores. This is either done via jobs, or the SQL Maintance tools. Neither so any status of a backup/restore. Overall progress, bytes written, etc. EM when backing up or restoring does show a GUI progress bar that isn't perfect, but does show progress to some extent.
So far I can look in the sysprocesses tables and find what spid is running the command, but that doesn't tell me much. The console command line util is for tape backups. Is there anything that can monitor the progress of backups and restores.
Thanks,
ETThe native SQL Server BACKUP and RESTORE commands have a STATUS parameter,
that when specified, returns status messages, indicating the progress of the
backup/restore operation.
Here's an example:
RESTORE DATABASE YourDB FROM DISK='\\SomePath\SomeFile.BAK' WITH STATUS = 1
See, SQL Server Books Online for more information.
Note that, even after specifying the STATUS with BACKUP or RESTORE command,
you will not see any progress messages coming up, while SQL Server is
creating the file.
--
HTH,
Vyas, MVP (SQL Server)
http://vyaskn.tripod.com/
What hardware is your SQL Server running on?
http://vyaskn.tripod.com/poll.htm
"Twiggy" <etwilegar@.nospamttgonline.com> wrote in message
news:D4500856-A29C-44EF-A7E8-828D7F6DDBCD@.microsoft.com...
Very often I have to do large backup and restores. This is either done via
jobs, or the SQL Maintance tools. Neither so any status of a backup/restore.
Overall progress, bytes written, etc. EM when backing up or restoring does
show a GUI progress bar that isn't perfect, but does show progress to some
extent.
So far I can look in the sysprocesses tables and find what spid is running
the command, but that doesn't tell me much. The console command line util is
for tape backups. Is there anything that can monitor the progress of
backups and restores.
Thanks,
ET|||Well I knew that EM was doing this and grabbing the results. In this case I'm not in control of the actual restore command. The command is already running, is there a way for another connection to get status on the operation. Is there a system table that information is written to?|||No Twiggy, there is not...
--
Wayne Snyder, MCDBA, SQL Server MVP
Computer Education Services Corporation (CESC), Charlotte, NC
www.computeredservices.com
(Please respond only to the newsgroups.)
I support the Professional Association of SQL Server (PASS) and it's
community of SQL Server professionals.
www.sqlpass.org
"Twiggy" <etwilegar@.ttgonline.com> wrote in message
news:72E2D27A-36B1-4013-94D8-04A60F0A8782@.microsoft.com...
> Well I knew that EM was doing this and grabbing the results. In this case
I'm not in control of the actual restore command. The command is already
running, is there a way for another connection to get status on the
operation. Is there a system table that information is written to?
>|||I find this really weird. I wonder how the heck their internal developers debug backup/restore issues. I guess the code for backup and restoring hasn't changed a lot since 7, but still I'm sure there is a switch that would turn on logging of some sort. I'd hate to be the guy that had to write the Enterprise manager code, parsing the text output from restore with status.
Guess I'll wait for mirroring.

Backup/restore Databases remotely.

Hi i've tried a few remote administration tools including Microsofts own Web Data Administrator for SQL server... but none of them seem to do what is essential to me and that is backup/restore databases to a file.
Does anyone know of a free tool that can just backup/restore databases remotely. I dont really want to have to use export/import data as things like triggers get lost when using Microsoft Web data administrator.
A free web tool written in ASP.NET or ASP would be ideal. But PHP would also be fine.
Thanks
I don't understand . Why did you say that you can not
backup/restore to a file. As long as SQL server can
access that folder, it can backup/restore to/from that
folder.
>--Original Message--
>Hi i've tried a few remote administration tools
including Microsofts own Web Data Administrator for SQL
server... but none of them seem to do what is essential
to me and that is backup/restore databases to a file.
>Does anyone know of a free tool that can just
backup/restore databases remotely. I dont really want to
have to use export/import data as things like triggers
get lost when using Microsoft Web data administrator.
>A free web tool written in ASP.NET or ASP would be
ideal. But PHP would also be fine.
>Thanks
>.
>
|||SQL server itself can backup/restore yes. But the remote web admin tool cannot.. it can only import/export data which does not include things like triggers.
See this page:
http://www.databasejournal.com/featu...0894_3330301_2
And I quote:
"Database Administration Functions missing from Web Data Administration tool
- Can't create a database backup and restore a database "
|||The article also says:
Even though these are not provided with the tool, some of
these items can be performed by using the Query tool to
submit T-SQL code to perform these tasks.
You can do backups and restores through T-SQL. In many
cases, most of what any of the tools do can be done in
T-SQL.
-Sue
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:46:05 -0700, "GregD"
<anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>SQL server itself can backup/restore yes. But the remote web admin tool cannot.. it can only import/export data which does not include things like triggers.
>See this page:
>http://www.databasejournal.com/featu...0894_3330301_2
>And I quote:
>"Database Administration Functions missing from Web Data Administration tool
>- Can't create a database backup and restore a database "
|||Hi Sue,
What would the syntax be for backup/restore in TSQL? Or do you have a link where I can find this out myself?
Thanks for your help.
|||No matter found it myself on MSDN:
BACKUP DATABASE DBNameGoesHere
TO DISK = 'C:\temp\Somefilename.bak'
WITH INIT
RESTORE DATABASE DBNameGoesHere
FROM DISK = 'C:\temp\Somefilename.bak'
WITH REPLACE
|||Books Online is available within the SQL Server program group (assuming =
that you have SQL Server installed). =20
Books Online can be downloaded separately if necessary:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/downloads/default.asp
Here is the specific link to the BOL download:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/techinf...2000/books.asp
--=20
Keith
"GregD" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message =
news:FBB86780-E276-4A02-B618-A7360E899FDC@.microsoft.com...
> No matter found it myself on MSDN:
>=20
> BACKUP DATABASE DBNameGoesHere
> TO DISK =3D 'C:\temp\Somefilename.bak'
> WITH INIT
>=20
> RESTORE DATABASE DBNameGoesHere
> FROM DISK =3D 'C:\temp\Somefilename.bak'
> WITH REPLACE

Backup/restore Databases remotely.

Hi i've tried a few remote administration tools including Microsofts own Web Data Administrator for SQL server... but none of them seem to do what is essential to me and that is backup/restore databases to a file.
Does anyone know of a free tool that can just backup/restore databases remotely. I dont really want to have to use export/import data as things like triggers get lost when using Microsoft Web data administrator.
A free web tool written in ASP.NET or ASP would be ideal. But PHP would also be fine.
ThanksI don't understand . Why did you say that you can not
backup/restore to a file. As long as SQL server can
access that folder, it can backup/restore to/from that
folder.
>--Original Message--
>Hi i've tried a few remote administration tools
including Microsofts own Web Data Administrator for SQL
server... but none of them seem to do what is essential
to me and that is backup/restore databases to a file.
>Does anyone know of a free tool that can just
backup/restore databases remotely. I dont really want to
have to use export/import data as things like triggers
get lost when using Microsoft Web data administrator.
>A free web tool written in ASP.NET or ASP would be
ideal. But PHP would also be fine.
>Thanks
>.
>|||SQL server itself can backup/restore yes. But the remote web admin tool cannot.. it can only import/export data which does not include things like triggers.
See this page:
http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.php/10894_3330301_2
And I quote:
"Database Administration Functions missing from Web Data Administration tool
- Can't create a database backup and restore a database "|||The article also says:
Even though these are not provided with the tool, some of
these items can be performed by using the Query tool to
submit T-SQL code to perform these tasks.
You can do backups and restores through T-SQL. In many
cases, most of what any of the tools do can be done in
T-SQL.
-Sue
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:46:05 -0700, "GregD"
<anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>SQL server itself can backup/restore yes. But the remote web admin tool cannot.. it can only import/export data which does not include things like triggers.
>See this page:
>http://www.databasejournal.com/features/mssql/article.php/10894_3330301_2
>And I quote:
>"Database Administration Functions missing from Web Data Administration tool
>- Can't create a database backup and restore a database "|||Hi Sue
What would the syntax be for backup/restore in TSQL? Or do you have a link where I can find this out myself? :
Thanks for your help.|||No matter found it myself on MSDN
BACKUP DATABASE DBNameGoesHer
TO DISK = 'C:\temp\Somefilename.bak
WITH INI
RESTORE DATABASE DBNameGoesHer
FROM DISK = 'C:\temp\Somefilename.bak
WITH REPLACE|||Books Online is available within the SQL Server program group (assuming =that you have SQL Server installed).
Books Online can be downloaded separately if necessary:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/downloads/default.asp
Here is the specific link to the BOL download:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/techinfo/productdoc/2000/books.asp
-- Keith
"GregD" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message =news:FBB86780-E276-4A02-B618-A7360E899FDC@.microsoft.com...
> No matter found it myself on MSDN:
> > BACKUP DATABASE DBNameGoesHere
> TO DISK =3D 'C:\temp\Somefilename.bak'
> WITH INIT
> > RESTORE DATABASE DBNameGoesHere
> FROM DISK =3D 'C:\temp\Somefilename.bak'
> WITH REPLACE

Backup/restore Databases remotely.

Hi i've tried a few remote administration tools including Microsofts own Web
Data Administrator for SQL server... but none of them seem to do what is es
sential to me and that is backup/restore databases to a file.
Does anyone know of a free tool that can just backup/restore databases remot
ely. I dont really want to have to use export/import data as things like tri
ggers get lost when using Microsoft Web data administrator.
A free web tool written in ASP.NET or ASP would be ideal. But php would also
be fine.
ThanksI don't understand . Why did you say that you can not
backup/restore to a file. As long as SQL server can
access that folder, it can backup/restore to/from that
folder.
>--Original Message--
>Hi i've tried a few remote administration tools
including Microsofts own Web Data Administrator for SQL
server... but none of them seem to do what is essential
to me and that is backup/restore databases to a file.
>Does anyone know of a free tool that can just
backup/restore databases remotely. I dont really want to
have to use export/import data as things like triggers
get lost when using Microsoft Web data administrator.
>A free web tool written in ASP.NET or ASP would be
ideal. But php would also be fine.
>Thanks
>.
>|||SQL server itself can backup/restore yes. But the remote web admin tool cann
ot.. it can only import/export data which does not include things like trigg
ers.
See this page:
http://www.databasejournal.com/feat...10894_3330301_2
And I quote:
"Database Administration Functions missing from Web Data Administration tool
- Can't create a database backup and restore a database "|||The article also says:
Even though these are not provided with the tool, some of
these items can be performed by using the Query tool to
submit T-SQL code to perform these tasks.
You can do backups and restores through T-SQL. In many
cases, most of what any of the tools do can be done in
T-SQL.
-Sue
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:46:05 -0700, "GregD"
<anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>SQL server itself can backup/restore yes. But the remote web admin tool can
not.. it can only import/export data which does not include things like trig
gers.
>See this page:
>http://www.databasejournal.com/feat...10894_3330301_2
>And I quote:
>"Database Administration Functions missing from Web Data Administration too
l
>- Can't create a database backup and restore a database "|||Hi Sue,
What would the syntax be for backup/restore in TSQL? Or do you have a link w
here I can find this out myself?
Thanks for your help.|||No matter found it myself on MSDN:
BACKUP DATABASE DBNameGoesHere
TO DISK = 'C:\temp\Somefilename.bak'
WITH INIT
RESTORE DATABASE DBNameGoesHere
FROM DISK = 'C:\temp\Somefilename.bak'
WITH REPLACE|||Books Online is available within the SQL Server program group (assuming =
that you have SQL Server installed). =20
Books Online can be downloaded separately if necessary:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/downloads/default.asp
Here is the specific link to the BOL download:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/techin.../2000/books.asp
--=20
Keith
"GregD" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message =
news:FBB86780-E276-4A02-B618-A7360E899FDC@.microsoft.com...
> No matter found it myself on MSDN:
>=20
> BACKUP DATABASE DBNameGoesHere
> TO DISK =3D 'C:\temp\Somefilename.bak'
> WITH INIT
>=20
> RESTORE DATABASE DBNameGoesHere
> FROM DISK =3D 'C:\temp\Somefilename.bak'
> WITH REPLACE